Friedrich Chopin's Werke. Band IV pp. Plate C. The principal editor of the Nocturnes was Woldemar Bargiel. Publication date from Hofmeister's Verzeichnis. Original scans: dpi, grayscale jpg images by pixels. Converted to black and white tif files, de-skewed, re-sampled to dpi, and set uniform margins.
Editor Theodor Kullak Albert Ross Parsons Instructive Ausgabe , Vol. Plate S. Co-issue - New York: G. Schirmer , Chopin later sold the copyright for the nocturnes for 2, francs along with several other pieces. Gustav Barth commented that Chopin's nocturnes are definite signs of "progress" in comparison to John Field 's original nocturnes, though the improvements are "for the most part only in technique.
The Nocturne in C minor, Op. In general, the scheme of the music is ternary form and follows A-B-A'. Later, it moves to doppio movimento agitato at measure 49 and features fortissimo octave passages and double octave arpeggi. Finally, the piece ends with a reprise of the initial melody with extremely fast chordal accompaniment  The piece is a total of 77 measures long.
The Nocturne in C minor has been categorized as one of Chopin's greatest emotional achievements. Jim Samson notes that the nocturne intensifies "not through ornamentation, but through a new textural background.
The Nocturne in F-sharp minor, Op 48, No. The piece is a total of measures long. Frederick Niecks commented that the middle section "is much finer" and contains "soothing, simple chord progressions.
I sight-read through the octaves without a problem, but then I got to the recap I see kalirren's point. If doppio movimiento means double the time of the original lento , then yes, if the original lento were at roughly 40 to 45 quarter notes per minute, the septuplet of chords would be to per minute, so doable.
Still, for Chopin to have called a toquarter-note-per-minute tempo just "lento" seems a bit like an understatement. The issue with comparing the octave etude to this nocturne is that the nocturne JUST has the octaves Who cares if there are jumps in the Nocturne octaves have you seen the 3rd Scherzo?! Interested in discussing: -Prokofiev Toccata -Scriabin Sonata 2.
Hi, nanabush! There are indeed those melodic lines in the octaves etude! I hadn't thought about that, but for some reason, they never gave me any trouble, so I wasn't thinking about them! Just because you learn one piece faster than the other doesn't necessarily mean it's easier than the other piece. Some pieces that do take longer to learn, on the technical side of things, may be easier in the long run than those pieces that are faster to learn. I've always felt that Nocturne Op48 No1 is an example one of those that take long to learn on the technical side.
It's starts easy, then gets harder as you progress. For the musical side of things, I haven't got that far so I'm not going to say anything. Perfection itself is imperfection. But if you compare the Nocturne Op 48 1 to other pieces by Chopin, what pieces would you say are about the same difficulty as Op 48 No 1?
Quote from: jorley on February 05, , PM. Quote from: perprocrastinate on February 06, , AM. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant. It's technically difficult sections really are restricted to measures You have to voice a completely independent melody with your right pinky. The left hand must be kept whisper quiet if you are going to stay within the dynamic confines, yet it moves too much to be done comfortably without some bouncing.
The pedals on modern pianos are much better than what chopin had to work with Maybe that is just an issue in my head and my ear It is probably smack dap in the middle of the etude difficulty curve. I always see this nocturne as a musiquality etude.
Like op. That's an interesting question. IMHO, it depends on the pianist. Some pianists find it easier to adapt to or even master a specific technique which Etudes are generally comprised of ; Op. This Nocturne and nocturnes in general is are powerful, because it gives the pianist the ability to REALLY grab the audience members' souls and cause them to fall into an almost trance Sure you can go ahead and compare this nocturne to each and every etude one by one and decide which is more difficult to simply memorize or play the right notes to, but playing Op.
There are hidden and very subtle difficulties in Op. It is not all about technique, it is also about expression. I have heard some pretty mechanical performances. This was one of the pieces I played in my final recital for my music degree at London University over thirty years ago. My piano teacher and I discussed pieces appropriate in demonstrating a robust technique, expressive capablitites etc.
I can assure you this piece is more difficult than many think. Tackling a piece is not the same as pulling off a convincing performance in front of an audience, or examiners for a music degree for that matter. I thought I played it very well, along with the rest of my repertoire and got a I agree with another post, the last section for example is very difficult to pull off in terms of marrying a fast moving triplet accompaniment with a melody line reprise of first section that actually comes through cantabile.
Also, occasional fours against threes, seven against three etc have to be precisely executed so that it does not sound like a muddle. Do not underestimate the challenges in this lovely Nocturne. However, do not be put off learning it. I absolutely agree that it is, like so many other challenging pieces of music, something that you can leave for a while I liked the analogy of a good wine!
However Album) I began studying I didn't realize how hard it actually was. Help Learn to No. 1 - Rubinstein* - Chopin* - The Nocturnes (Reel-To-Reel Community portal Recent changes Upload file. I'll venture some opinions on the difficulties, but emphasize that everyone is entitled to their opinions as to what is difficult or easy and nothing has to be "cast in concrete" on the subject. Quote from: iratior. I love this Nocturne. One last thing. Album Musica, No. This is a challenge as you know because of the pp chords that are played in the same hand.
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